DDLG Origins

[Awinita]

Sorry if this post is not allowed or I've posted in the wrong forum but for my college assignment I have to pick a topic and make a presentation on it. I decided to pick the theme of DDLG/ABDL/Ageplay/Lolitas/etc and discuss the differences, and origins. 

 

I decided to pick this theme as I was hoping to raise a little more awareness for the community in my college as a decision today resulted in my tutor and a friend at college focusing on lolitas and the interests of school girls in Japanese culture. They completely ignored the fact that not all littles are sexual.

 

I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice, hints or tips on what to include and what to avoid? Also if anyone can tell me the origins of any of these terms? 

 

Thanks, and again sorry for any offence if I caused it. 

[Guest littlebitty]

Hey I'm really interested in this and think it's quite a brave move to openly do a presentation on this topic.

 

What I would personally say is all of the things you named mean very different things to the individual. As you have said some it's sexual some it's not. I don't actually feel you can easily sum up DDLG, ABDL, Ageplay and Lolita and put them into boxes. It is a very personal choice that's made up of that persons character and expereinces and also exposure to such topics. I have really noticed that what is said for example in the UK as DDLG is slightly different from say the US. Not one is right or wrong just different.

 

What I would suggest is to maybe do a general introduction to each topic that can dispel some of the myths and stigma surrounding the activities. E,g not all littles are sexual, not all ABs wear nappies/diapers, Lolita has quite a conflicted history if you trace the origins (I could go on and on about that one). And you could bring in the Japanese link there.

 

If you are feeling brave maybe you could sum it up with your personal journey but I do have to say be very wary. You may have good intentions but for some people they will not see DDLG and ABDL as a normal or positive thing. I would not give out websites, forums etc for more info I would simply say 'anyone interested can can find more info from me'.

 

I would highly recommend talking to lots of people actively in these dynamics as to what inspired them and what their own origin of their personal dynamic is (if that makes sense) as there is not blueprint. Of course this depends on how much detail you wish to go into.

But seriously if you can do it good for you coz we need more positive conversations and positive exposure to these topics.

[StarEyed]

Are you focusing on Lolitas and the interest of Japanese school girls as a subculture only? Or are you including everything you've listed?

[Awinita]

What I would suggest is to maybe do a general introduction to each topic that can dispel some of the myths and stigma surrounding the activities. E,g not all littles are sexual, not all ABs wear nappies/diapers, Lolita has quite a conflicted history if you trace the origins (I could go on and on about that one). And you could bring in the Japanese link there.

 

If you are feeling brave maybe you could sum it up with your personal journey but I do have to say be very wary. You may have good intentions but for some people they will not see DDLG and ABDL as a normal or positive thing. I would not give out websites, forums etc for more info I would simply say 'anyone interested can can find more info from me'.

 

I would highly recommend talking to lots of people actively in these dynamics as to what inspired them and what their own origin of their personal dynamic is (if that makes sense) as there is not blueprint. Of course this depends on how much detail you wish to go into.

But seriously if you can do it good for you coz we need more positive conversations and positive exposure to these topics.

 

I was hoping to do a myth versus fact section in my presentation eg Myth: "DDLG promotes pedophilia", Fact: "DDLG is between consenting adults and does not promote going out and actually doing things with a minor". (That may have been worded wrong but I'll work on explaining better .-. )

[Awinita]

Are you focusing on Lolitas and the interest of Japanese school girls as a subculture only? Or are you including everything you've listed?

 

I'm focusing on all listed. I'll try and explain the difference between Lolita and ageplay and how people have blurred the two together over the years and the effect the media has on the DDlg community. I'm also hoping to include info on DDLB and MDLB/MDLG as there is not a lot of info out there on that.

[Vince]

Wow your taking on a lot here, If you write your presentation out I'd love to see it. I have noticed how blurred the definitions of some words has become. Like Lolita was always a style of clothes to me, but meant something else to others. I clicked on this cause I thought you were gonna explore the psychological origins for the DD/lg dynamic,  which would be hard to prove and be mostly theories.

For what its worth I Feel I'm a daddy because I have a natural instinct to guide and protect people, and  that applies if I'm attracted to them or not.

 

I wish you luck in this, and wouldn't mind letting you pick my meager brain on the subject, after I get home from work.

[Awinita]

Vince I have to do a video exhibition/presentation recording my findings and create photographs to back up my points but during planning stage I will have to write my findings down and then put it into a short video between 2-5 minutes. 

[Bull]

This might not be as specific as you're looking for, but I wrote this in the cg/L history thread:

 

 

The Daddy - or more specifically, the Leather Daddy - has been around for a long time in gay eroticism and history.

 

It's important to note the Leather scene first formalized itself out of gay soldiers returning to the US after World War ll. (1939-1945). For the men of that era, military service was their first homosocial experience, first experience of male bonding during stress, and first time away from home and family. Discipline was necessary, and advancement in status was earned. These gay veterans learned about the value and pleasure of discipline in the achievement of a noble purpose, within a mix of emotional extremes.

 

Upon their return to the US in 1946, many gay veterans wanted to retain those elements of military experience, latching onto biker culture in the process. It mixed the elements of brotherhood camaraderie, the stress of risk taking, and the hyper masculine sexuality they had known during their service. All this was overlaid with a ritual formalism they had grown accustomed to. These clubs were the roots of Leather and kink culture as we know them today.

 

Keep in mind that, in this time, it wasn't uncommon to be abandoned by one's family, followed closely by the desertion of church and friends, after coming out as homosexual. "Leather families" replaced those familial bonds, with chosen families providing support when parents, siblings, and friends abandoned you. The Daddy/boy structure addressed the very human need for support and discipline, along with a sense of tradition, belonging, and passing along a sense of dynastic heritage to the next generation.

[Awinita]

Thank you Bull! Every little helps, I appreciate any help from anyone here

[Guest littlebitty]

Personally as it is a vast topic to discuss I would leave out the Lolita info or maybe just mention is as with a nod to the fashion/subculture.

I would stick to a simple what is and what is not DDLG/ABDL/Ageplay and use the facts Vs myth to talk about the stigma that many of us face in the dynamic.

Just one thing I'd like to mention but it's totally up to you...I hear a lot of people describe DDLG as the 'softer side' to BDSM and I have to say for me it is not at all. I was involved in BDSM way before I found my place as a little and I would say for many of us it is not just cutesy, it is a real strong urge to be little or to be a caregiver/dominant and sometimes extreme form of D/S relationships.

Hope it goes well.