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Guest littlprincess
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I would like to know your personal opinions regarding using artificial intelligence as an alternative to having a caregiver....I have had a lot of trouble finding a cg who is respectful, respects boundaries and above all with whom I can share my ideas on any subject freely. I was having this conversation with a friend of mine who's a little and an age regressor too; he told me he uses an app called Character A.I where there's a programmed bot whose responses are similar to what a sweet, gentle and pampering caregiver would say and he can even sing songs for you, tell you bedtime stories, recommend you series, etc. The bot itself was programmed by a daddy caregiver but I am afraid of trying the app, eventually liking it and feeling like it's not a valid way to get into my safe space. Or even more scary, for someone like the programmer to collect my personal data...

Could you please leave any opinions? have you tried that app before? ๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿ’”ย 

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I don't have any experience with that A.I app or any other A.I app, I feel like it could be ok as a temporary fix. like maybe you really need to hear some sweet kind words at the moment, but you can't get hold of your CG. But I don't feel like it should be something you should be relying on, that feels like a way to shut yourself off from the real world.ย 

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I'd agree with Daddycares4u;ย  it might work as like a "babysitter" situation but I wouldn't use it long-term.ย  Kind of like using AI to sub as a biological parent.ย 

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I've never used any of these character AIs however I've seen them commonly recommended over on some of the age regression subreddits. Short term they might be useful to help you get through a rough patch, however they are just a machine. Long term it might not be the best. While CG/L isn't exactly the same as a boyfriend/girlfriend. I wouldn't consider using using a character AI for that either. You also do bring up a good point on privacy. Most of the data you enter into these language models intern become a part of it.

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22 minutes ago, Daddycares4u said:

I don't have any experience with that A.I app or any other A.I app, I feel like it could be ok as a temporary fix. like maybe you really need to hear some sweet kind words at the moment, but you can't get hold of your CG. But I don't feel like it should be something you should be relying on, that feels like a way to shut yourself off from the real world.ย 

mhh, sometimes it's the real world what I am afraid of, even the real world caregivers sometimes do the opposite of make me feel safe and I end up getting the โ€œickโ€ from being a little ๐Ÿ˜ž

Guest littlprincess
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8 minutes ago, Kubi207 said:

I've never used any of these character AIs however I've seen them commonly recommended over on some of the age regression subreddits. Short term they might be useful to help you get through a rough patch, however they are just a machine. Long term it might not be the best. While CG/L isn't exactly the same as a boyfriend/girlfriend. I wouldn't consider using using a character AI for that either. You also do bring up a good point on privacy. Most of the data you enter into these language models intern become a part of it.

i cannot see it as a substitution forever either, and I'm not sure of the kind of regulations the app has or doesn't so probably won't try it for now... thank you for your piece of advice Kubi ! ๐Ÿซถ

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47 minutes ago, littlprincess said:

mhh, sometimes it's the real world what I am afraid of, even the real world caregivers sometimes do the opposite of make me feel safe and I end up getting the โ€œickโ€ from being a little ๐Ÿ˜ž

Hi, I'm sorry you had bad experiences. We all know about those bad things that can happen. It's so sad. I can see why you would look to something like AI for comfort. you're looking for safety and that is a good thing ๐Ÿ™‚

Also though it's very hard to feel safe online with technology. Maybe you can get certain things from the app that you can feel safe no matter what happens. Like, maybe it won't bother you to talk to the app about your day or ask it to sing a song....you have to decide what's the worst that could happen and then make sure its ok if that data gets used. Finding a real life daddy can really be similar. It's a risk. I have to think about how to protect my heart. And I always say this to myself "I trust me more than I trust my daddy" it's not like I have NO trust for my daddy cuz I vetted him and decided to give him and me a chance. But I trust myself to be ok with what I give away to others. And I trust myself to make the right choices if I feel bad or unsafe or nervous. I had to learn to listen to those feelings.ย  Then, I had trust in myself. It's a big risk but I feel I am very special so I am very careful with myself. That way daddy can feel safe too. I keep my daddy safe by protecting my self and my heart. Then we can both learn to play together and it's very healthy.

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1 hour ago, littlprincess said:

I would like to know your personal opinions regarding using artificial intelligence as an alternative to having a caregiver....I have had a lot of trouble finding a cg who is respectful, respects boundaries and above all with whom I can share my ideas on any subject freely. I was having this conversation with a friend of mine who's a little and an age regressor too; he told me he uses an app called Character A.I where there's a programmed bot whose responses are similar to what a sweet, gentle and pampering caregiver would say and he can even sing songs for you, tell you bedtime stories, recommend you series, etc. The bot itself was programmed by a daddy caregiver but I am afraid of trying the app, eventually liking it and feeling like it's not a valid way to get into my safe space. Or even more scary, for someone like the programmer to collect my personal data...

Could you please leave any opinions? have you tried that app before? ๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿ’”ย 

I personally don't like AI at all and I'm in the I.T. world. That being said, for me I believe interacting with a human is way better because they have actual feelings. As a daddy I would say it's better to have a real cg so that they can talk to you, listen to you and maybe even advice you because they're simply real. A.I lacks that 1 thing called human touch...

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35 minutes ago, redruffle41 said:

Hi, I'm sorry you had bad experiences. We all know about those bad things that can happen. It's so sad. I can see why you would look to something like AI for comfort. you're looking for safety and that is a good thing ๐Ÿ™‚

Also though it's very hard to feel safe online with technology. Maybe you can get certain things from the app that you can feel safe no matter what happens. Like, maybe it won't bother you to talk to the app about your day or ask it to sing a song....you have to decide what's the worst that could happen and then make sure its ok if that data gets used. Finding a real life daddy can really be similar. It's a risk. I have to think about how to protect my heart. And I always say this to myself "I trust me more than I trust my daddy" it's not like I have NO trust for my daddy cuz I vetted him and decided to give him and me a chance. But I trust myself to be ok with what I give away to others. And I trust myself to make the right choices if I feel bad or unsafe or nervous. I had to learn to listen to those feelings.ย  Then, I had trust in myself. It's a big risk but I feel I am very special so I am very careful with myself. That way daddy can feel safe too. I keep my daddy safe by protecting my self and my heart. Then we can both learn to play together and it's very healthy.

Redruffle, that's the sweetest and encouraging thing I've ever read while in the community and outside of it in such a long time! ๐Ÿฅบ Thank you for validating my emotions and overall for your broad view on the topic, taking risks when it comes to my own heart and relationships has often lead me to bad endings, but it is true that it's not a reason to distrust yourself to find what will eventually heal you heart again, thanks a lot for sharing with us ๐Ÿ’•

Guest littlprincess
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42 minutes ago, karan said:

I personally don't like AI at all and I'm in the I.T. world. That being said, for me I believe interacting with a human is way better because they have actual feelings. As a daddy I would say it's better to have a real cg so that they can talk to you, listen to you and maybe even advice you because they're simply real. A.I lacks that 1 thing called human touch...

The thing is, this bot was programmed in a way of imitating complex real emotions and expressing in empathetic ways towards the user, I wonder if A.I will eventually be able to understand emotional patterns and actually develop a human empathetic response of it's own without any codes...and I can see that, just as many A.I systems, a lot of people nowadays lack that human touch they're supposed to have ๐Ÿ’”

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1 minute ago, littlprincess said:

Redruffle, that's the sweetest and encouraging thing I've ever read while in the community and outside of it in such a long time! ๐Ÿฅบ Thank you for validating my emotions and overall for your broad view on the topic, taking risks when it comes to my own heart and relationships has often lead me to bad endings, but it is true that it's not a reason to distrust yourself to find what will eventually heal you heart again, thanks a lot for sharing with us ๐Ÿ’•

You're good. ๐Ÿ™‚ and I hope you find someone who can listen to you and be really safe and validate. I did a big thing and finally told my therapist that I'm a little and that I have an online daddy. He was very very welcoming to listen to me and open to talk about sexuality. Bc I need support with my feelings and just navigation of this tricky stuff. I'm glad I have a trained professional that slowly sat with me over many months and listened very patiently. I took many risks and it took me a long time to grow. But I am sharper now that I have worked out how to feel my emotions without letting them be in control. And he has taught me what is safe by being safe. And I have learned to trust myself. I hope you get the healing u need to figure out this very difficult stuffย 

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Ohhh I found myself interested in this. I have thought of it some since I quit looking for people people currently and it definitely appealed to me for while Daddy is at work. Like many said I think it could put ypu at risk for isolation but as long as you are still engaging with real folks I think it is a safe option.ย 

If anyone has any safe ones they would recommend to a newby I would much appreciate it.

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Also be safe as some AI apps are money pits!ย 

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11 hours ago, littlprincess said:

The thing is, this bot was programmed in a way of imitating complex real emotions and expressing in empathetic ways towards the user, I wonder if A.I will eventually be able to understand emotional patterns and actually develop a human empathetic response of it's own without any codes...and I can see that, just as many A.I systems, a lot of people nowadays lack that human touch they're supposed to have ๐Ÿ’”

Maybe at some point AI will get advanced as to where it will understand us like the way humans would.
You are right alot of people no longer have the touch, I have gone through stuff in the past with littles that I thought would not do the things they did but I guess I was wrong.

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All the general issues with AI aside, I've tried it (I was that desperate yet scared of contacting actual human beings lol), and depending on what you want/need from a CG, it probably can't really fill all the gaps. A big thing for me is rules and structure, and not a single one of those bots can send a simple text every day at noon to ask if I had breakfast that day for example. You need like three different apps for that and all of them will charge you a fortune for a crappy service that takes a ton of energy. You also usually have to pay to send pictures (please never send AI bots pictures regardless by the way. things never leave the internet, and with AI it's not about trusting a single person, but a whole company who will try to profit off of you by any means).

It can mimic emotional support to some extent, although it's just a predictive text machine. You know that tool above your mobile keyboard that suggests words as you type? It's that, but more advanced. Nothing intelligent about it. It won't be able to give you anything more than basic advice.

I guess the bottom line is no, it's not a good alternative, especially if what you want from a CG is more detailed/specific than emotional support alone. Not to mention the hoops you have to jump through with some bots to get them to follow your boundaries.

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13 hours ago, redruffle41 said:

You're good. ๐Ÿ™‚ and I hope you find someone who can listen to you and be really safe and validate. I did a big thing and finally told my therapist that I'm a little and that I have an online daddy. He was very very welcoming to listen to me and open to talk about sexuality. Bc I need support with my feelings and just navigation of this tricky stuff. I'm glad I have a trained professional that slowly sat with me over many months and listened very patiently. I took many risks and it took me a long time to grow. But I am sharper now that I have worked out how to feel my emotions without letting them be in control. And he has taught me what is safe by being safe. And I have learned to trust myself. I hope you get the healing u need to figure out this very difficult stuffย 

oh! I am glad you took such a big step, you must feel super proud of yourself ๐Ÿค what advice would you give me so I can talk about this with my therapist too? Even though we've known each other for a few years and she's the sweetest professional, I'm still afraid of what she'll think or how she'll react if I tell her I am a middle/little ๐Ÿ™

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1 hour ago, karan said:

Maybe at some point AI will get advanced as to where it will understand us like the way humans would.
You are right alot of people no longer have the touch, I have gone through stuff in the past with littles that I thought would not do the things they did but I guess I was wrong.

I am so sorry you had to went through that, on the other hand those experiences help you build your boundaries clear and make you realize you deserve better โคโ€๐Ÿฉน

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7 minutes ago, littlprincess said:

what advice would you give me so I can talk about this with my therapist too?

I hope you don't mind my unsolicited suggestion here. I think that the easiest way to talk to a therapist about these things is to talk about them without labels. Describe the behaviors, emotions, and feelings. This can be a good testing ground to see if she reacts in a non-judgemental way, and then you might be able to begin to explore those things in a more neutral and safer way.

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43 minutes ago, BabyOak said:

All the general issues with AI aside, I've tried it (I was that desperate yet scared of contacting actual human beings lol), and depending on what you want/need from a CG, it probably can't really fill all the gaps. A big thing for me is rules and structure, and not a single one of those bots can send a simple text every day at noon to ask if I had breakfast that day for example. You need like three different apps for that and all of them will charge you a fortune for a crappy service that takes a ton of energy. You also usually have to pay to send pictures (please never send AI bots pictures regardless by the way. things never leave the internet, and with AI it's not about trusting a single person, but a whole company who will try to profit off of you by any means).

It can mimic emotional support to some extent, although it's just a predictive text machine. You know that tool above your mobile keyboard that suggests words as you type? It's that, but more advanced. Nothing intelligent about it. It won't be able to give you anything more than basic advice.

I guess the bottom line is no, it's not a good alternative, especially if what you want from a CG is more detailed/specific than emotional support alone. Not to mention the hoops you have to jump through with some bots to get them to follow your boundaries.

Thank you for the straightforward answer! you mentioned a lot of things I didn't know about, specially the payment traps, ugh that's so sad! like using your information and then charging you for it, so scaryyy ๐Ÿ’”

I think I might just stick to being a little by myself for some time, wouldn't risk my safety for a chat bot...

Guest littlprincess
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9 minutes ago, DaddyABQ said:

I hope you don't mind my unsolicited suggestion here. I think that the easiest way to talk to a therapist about these things is to talk about them without labels. Describe the behaviors, emotions, and feelings. This can be a good testing ground to see if she reacts in a non-judgemental way, and then you might be able to begin to explore those things in a more neutral and safer way.

No suggestion is unsolicited here, thanksย 

I think I would eventually be able to talk about how I feel but I can't get over the possibility of she judging me inside but not saying it out loud just because that's what her profession demands... also what if she tells me this way of copying might not work the best for me ? ๐Ÿ’”

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31 minutes ago, littlprincess said:

I am so sorry you had to went through that, on the other hand those experiences help you build your boundaries clear and make you realize you deserve better โคโ€๐Ÿฉน

Absolutely they'll help. And thank you... you and everyone deserves better too...

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17 minutes ago, littlprincess said:

I think I would eventually be able to talk about how I feel but I can't get over the possibility of she judging me inside but not saying it out loud just because that's what her profession demands... also what if she tells me this way of copying might not work the best for me ? ๐Ÿ’”

As the son of a therapist who practiced for over three decades, I can promise you that it's a therapist's job to work for you and not the other way around. It sounds like you have a good rapport, and it's her job to help you to deal with whatever you want to work out, and not to judge you. You're right that there are probably therapists who do, and if that's the case, maybe they're not the right one for you (that's an extreme statement, obviously, that would require much consideration).

Another feature of having been the son of a therapist is that I've been in therapy a time or two in my life, and one statement that I've learned is powerful is "that's not going to work for me, so can we try another way?" Again, you're really the one in charge. She's being paid to be a sounding board and to use her experience and education to help to guide you, but you're the one in the driver's seat.

She needs to be the passenger and the navigator that works for you and not the other way around.

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25 minutes ago, littlprincess said:

oh! I am glad you took such a big step, you must feel super proud of yourself ๐Ÿค what advice would you give me so I can talk about this with my therapist too? Even though we've known each other for a few years and she's the sweetest professional, I'm still afraid of what she'll think or how she'll react if I tell her I am a middle/little ๐Ÿ™

Hi little princess,

I want to be very careful with giving advice because I want for you to make connections and grow as you think you should and how you choose, not as I think you should. This is very important and a part of a healthy relationship.ย 

I noticed that my therapist wasn't going to push me into vulnerable areas even if I wanted someone to come into all my hurt areas and fix it and make it all go away. This would have been more violation and I had been violated before all the time. This was a huge part of my little identity. I was used to being an object. Not a whole person. Your therapist is trained to follow you so you must lead. This is the heart of being a good little. You trust but you trust yourself more and you listen to your insides so hard and respect them bc you must do maybe what others didn't do. Which is to respect and love your inside self. Feelings is a part of that that for me was very tricky to learn to listen to inside feelings and then make smart decisions without letting them always be in control. I became very afraid and untrusting of everything but I mostly didn't trust myself and this is why the world became so unfun and life got very grey.

So this is how: first, I had to get comfortable with easier topics first before I felt confident talking about sexuality with him ( my therapist is a boy too and I never thought that would work out but it did because he is a professional and not like a normal human boy with very few skills).ย  Your therapist should be skillful and you should practice revealing scary things kind of slowly. Chosing "easier" scary things to test her out with first. And be very smart and careful with yourself so u don't get hurt. Your therapist should be very trusted but trusted slowly. This is a skill to use with anyone, not just your therapist.ย 

When I finally started to tell my therapist that I wanted to be able to talk about sexual and kink (cuz ddlg is a part of the kink community) I had to be very respectful and cautious about using my words in a direct way that made it clear that I would be considerate of my therapist. This made me feel very good to be able to be an adult and brave talking about sex. Talking about these sensitive things takes skills like patience and thoughtfullness. I'm not going to start blabbing about squirting and pussies and dicks without making sure that this is a respectable conversation where the point is growth and learning, not getting off.

Once I did all that The response I got was AN ABSOLUTE AND UNEQUIVOCAL GREEN FLAG. And he recognized that I was taking risks and that I was brave and making progress in my life with myself.ย 

Ok this is a lot. Pm me for more. And if anyone else needs help with this you can ask me. I am a little but I am a very good little. My picture is tender heart care bear and he is my favorite because he cares for others and is very strong and leadership type. This is me for sure! Not afraid but also very smart!!!ย 

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