Are LB's Frowned Upon?

[LeftyGuitar]

Hello all,

 

I was thinking about this recently. Are little boys frowned upon in DDLG/MDLB? I know there aren't many mommies or probably little boys in the type of lifestyle or so I've observed. I also been thinking and maybe it just hit me recently, but I seem to get this feeling that they are perhaps frowned up because sub males are seen as weak or less appealing for lack of better words. Yet I know many subs are strong, I'm just speaking from a generlization sense. There is more I'd like to say, but my train of thought keeps cutting out, so I'll leave it here for now.

Edited January 9, 2021 by LeftyGuitar

[Little_Brat2]

I haven't seen or heard anything that would say it's disliked, I think its just not as popular as DDLG

 

I think MDLB is quite cute! So is MDLG, DDLG, and DDLB all of it is adorable!

[Little kaiya]

I don't think little boys are looked down on at all. As someone who is genderfluid, male sex but gender wise a man and a woman, I have both a little boy and little girl space and I've never felt looked down on.

 

I think a lot if it has to do with social conditioning and social norms so perhaps it is easier for women to express this side of themselves. That said, if you look at the AB community, related to but not exactly the same as DDlg, you will see a FAR greater number of little boys than little girls.

 

I think the nature of the site can very easily influence perception but I've never seen people here, or really in general, looking down on little boys or male subs.

[Vampiress]

I agree with Kaiya... social conditioning where males are generally seen as Dominant in order to be masculine and females more submissive. I also agree that more of the AB side and probably the baby fur side of things is mostly little boys as well.

 

I feel like a lot of Dominant or Mommy type women have to be a little more careful about being super open about it. They seem like a rare commodity and I can just imagine they will have boys flocking to them wanting a Mommy or a Domme. If I were in that position I'd be very guarded about it myself. I don't see anyone in the community shaming little boys or Mommies, though.

 

I sincerely hope as social norms change and people become more accepting that you'll see more male littles and more Mommy Dommes because you all deserve the same recognition and space to feel comfortable being yourself.

[Tasha-Pasha]

I would like to add that the language used around this lifestyle tends to favour more the male dominant / female submissive "norm". It's often referred to as DD/lg which automatically assigns gender roles. I much prefer the term CG/l because it is gender neutral. The way that we speak about and label things give those things power. 

 

Just like in mainstream society, there is a tendency to assume that everyone is heterosexual. Asking someone if they have a husband/wife / gf/bf based on their gender automatically excludes the possibility of anything else. I think the same can happen even in kink communities such as this. I try not to assume a person's gender, nor their preferred side of the CG/l dynamic, especially on an online platform like this.

 

I love that we can have discussions like this, though 

[LeftyGuitar]

Thank you all for responding. This has giving me a broader idea. Perhaps there is more LB's than LG's. However I think all of us can agree that there isn't many mommies, but hopefully that will change within time.

[baby_k]

I don't think LBs are frowned, or so I hope at least. Of course they may not be everyone's cup of tea, just like some people are not into men/women/diapers/scat....

 

What I would admit frowning a bit is a person who can't and doesn't want to adult when needed. Same with sub-types/littles: if they can't function as normal adults and take care of themselves, imo there is an issue. But this has nothing to do with one being male-sub or LB ( nor sub at all! ) even of course maybe this sort of reaction could be stronger when we see male having that kind of negative behaviour instead of a female -just because of our cultural bias as explained above.

 

I have one friend I see as really masculine but he also acts like one big baby sometimes -in a good way. It sort of makes him seem even more masculine as he is not ashamed of himself and still acts respectfully towards everyone and doen't use others even he brings out the softer side of him. I think there is something really nice when people can combine very different sides of themselves and be who they are but still have limits.

 

 

Edit: one thing came to my mind still. Sometimes you see adds of male-subs/littles that are really desperate and self-loathing. It's not then one being a sub that creates a negative reaction but the self-loating and selfpity. It is not appeling.

 

Where as one of the most adoring writings I once saw from a domme: she told how her male-sub is so strong, so masculine, confident and just amazing in every way and how that man submits to her, serves her. That was just pure adoration and respect she had towards her sub which was absolutely beautiful.

Edited January 9, 2021 by baby_k

[SmolAetherr]

hey im a switch and im not ashamed to express my submissive side, i have found a way to be dominant and express that side also, no conflict or problems

[LittlePupRune]

I'm a switch with a LB side. I guess I haven't seen that many lb's in cg/l but thats most likely because ddlg is the most popular of the different cg/l subgroups. I may be wrong in this but I think I see more sub men into abdl than cg/l. As for there not being many mommies, I personally wouldn't know because I'm not that into women, and more into men so I haven't been paying attention to that. I do know from some friends that are dominant women they sometimes get inundated with sub men, and those are sometimes desperate, so they are much more guarded about putting themselves out there which is probably part of the problem.

[BabeyBird]

In some cases yes, As a LB with trauma from women it doesn't matter much to me anyways. I've seen loads of LB's and mommys they arent rare it depends where you look. However, a lot of LG's frown upon LB's from what i have noticed. The whole CG/l community was male dominated not too long ago. I think that may be a reason why it's like that, however im young a lot of guys my age are pretty subby or switch. If you happen to be someone who i guess is older due to societal structure you wont find many LB's but look at people 18-25 and you will find a lot of LB's. The awnser is quite tricky but yes in a lot of cases they are frowned upon and not wanted unfortunately

[baby_k]

However, a lot of LG's frown upon LB's from what i have noticed. The whole CG/l community was male dominated not too long ago. I think that may be a reason why it's like that, however im young a lot of guys my age are pretty subby or switch. If you happen to be someone who i guess is older due to societal structure you wont find many LB's but look at people 18-25 and you will find a lot of LB's. The awnser is quite tricky but yes in a lot of cases they are frowned upon and not wanted unfortunately

Not totally sure I understood why you think LGs frown upon LBs but this made me think one thing: at least I have been approached by male subs/LBs which first is like "yaayy, new friend!" in my head. As it's sort of same as gay dude would be talking to me: there is no "danger" of sexual interest and the drama and hassle of it ( I NEED dom in bedroom, it's non negotiable ). Only to realise bit later that they actually look for romantic/sexual partner.

 

That has made me a bit wary around males that are sub/little because I feel that some of them sort fo desperately try to push me into domme role which I'm not interested taking ( even I have some dominant features in me ). So, it can feel awkward to me.

 

Same with those guys that are not sure if they are dom/sub or daddy/little. It's perfectly fine not to be sure but there are some people taking the role they need to in order to be potential partner to you, and forgetting the other side of them totally ( or at least burying it deep and claiming just to be dom/daddy or not needing the sub/little side ). I find this troublesome as if they in the end would need/want domme or so, I cannot offer it and I don't see point in pushing for rel that will make them feel unsatified after the lonlyness of single life has faded. And obviously it sort fo feels like those people are lying to me as they hide this other side of them which I know they have because well, I Iurk in forums ( for none of those people I have met have been open about not knowing what  they want.... )

[Vampiress]

I agree with baby k that there are sub/little males that are forceful and push with women who also identify as sub to domme/mommy them and it isn't really fair. It comes across really desperate and it makes things uncomfortable and awkward really quick.

[Bearly]

Guys may have a lot of internalized aversion to being little, but there are a LOT of little boys in the furry community, so they're not THAT rare!

[good_karma]

I don't think MD or LB are frowned upon... i think both are just rarer than the classic DD/LG... which makes it extra hard... since it feels like you're being drowned in a sea you're not even allowed to swim in...

In my experience (highly biased since it's my own experience) women in general are more selective.... men often take the shotgun approach... write 100 People and hope that someone answers... Women rarely do that, atleast i don't and it takes me a lot of thought and decision making to contact someone for that purpose.... Then you have the social norms that make it harder... women aren't "supposed" to write first... but the dom is "supposed" to write first... so both sit there not writing each other?

And as a last thought... safety is always a huge risk... there's always the thought that what if they're just saying/doing XYZ to take advantage later

 

there's some Mommies and some LB in the CG/l community (by far not as many as DD or LG) so don't get discouraged and don't think you're worth any less than anyone else in the community... if anyone frowns upon LB they're the problem not you

[MadelynVictoria]

I don't think they're frowned upon, I just think they're more rare to come across. As for the thing about submissive men being seen as weak has always irritated me. I think it takes a lot of strength for men to allow themselves to be submissive. They have always had this societal belief that they always have to be big, strong, dominating men, so when they come into a role that requires them to be the opposite of that, I think it can be hard for them. For all you male subs out there, you are loved and you are valid lol.

[LeftyGuitar]

Thank you all for your input. I never thought this would get so many responses, but it was interesting to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

[RainDoeSprinkles]

Hihi!  I recently discovered Little Baby Boo nursery, and they have three Mommies there!  You can join their Patreon account, and chat in the nursery.  Sometimes, Mommies drop in and chat with their littles!  I have chatted with Mommy Boo, and she seems so sweet and loving!  If you want to, I think you can even schedule a virtual visit online with one of the Mommies!  

 

Love and Hugs!!

[baddad]

I understand that people like to use labeling to speed up the conversation, and I have no experience in DDlg or similar spaces.

Some of the responses in this thread automatically assigned a submissive role to LB.

Can a male age regress for the same reasons anyone else would and still feel or be dominant, or not feel or want to be viewed as submissive in any way?

 

asking for a friend btw

[Vampiress]

I understand that people like to use labeling to speed up the conversation, and I have no experience in DDlg or similar spaces.

Some of the responses in this thread automatically assigned a submissive role to LB.

Can a male age regress for the same reasons anyone else would and still feel or be dominant, or not feel or want to be viewed as submissive in any way?

 

asking for a friend btw

 

Any little can be Dominant no matter what gender they identify with, I think the main reason people were assigning "submissive" is because a lot of the littles are, and the Dominant littles seem to be less common.

[littlekami]

I understand that people like to use labeling to speed up the conversation, and I have no experience in DDlg or similar spaces.

Some of the responses in this thread automatically assigned a submissive role to LB.

Can a male age regress for the same reasons anyone else would and still feel or be dominant, or not feel or want to be viewed as submissive in any way?

 

asking for a friend btw

Just chiming in to say YESS to this.

 

I personally have a submissive Mommy side to me and having an aggressive and/or high energy LB to take care of sounds like a lot of fun to me! 

This is just more uncommon. I suppose like anything, you just gotta be patient until you find the right person to explore with. 

 

I think that, for myself personally, the Mommy role is very service-oriented by default and can easily move towards a more submissive role where your bratty LB is wreaking havoc upon the house and all you can do is keep making more snacks. 

 

 

 

 

Although DD/LG is a gender specific acronym, I haven't encountered anything that suggests LBs are looked down on or anything or that they're really excluded from what I consider to still be an umbrella term. I feel like LBs that are looking for Mommys is actually rare though, but again it could be that this site specifically draws more female-identifying people and dominant daddies. 

Other websites I've been on, there were lots of LBs however many of them were babyfurs and interested in having Daddys too instead of Mommys. 

Edited February 28, 2021 by littlekami

[DaddysMonkey]

Hi Lefty !

 

I’ve been pondering on this one for a while.

 

My conclusion :

Littles boys aren’t frowned upon.

Overbearing / desperate and pushy littles are frowned upon.

 

It’s really upsetting that any male littles would feel this way , it makes my cold broken black heart cry a little bit. As a major tomboy that has issues getting along with girls , I wish there were more little boys to hang out with and play with !

 

I think the main issue isn’t gender. It’s just flat out statistics , and personality of said little.

To me it’s just basic math , if there are 30 little boys and only 4 mommies..... 26 littles boys are going without a mommy. As you said , there isn’t many mommies and little boys. It’s a big numbers game.

Personality is the other huge factor. (Which again , in my opinion this has absolutely nothing to do with gender.) If someone is publicly acting very desperate , and needy and acting as though they want to rush into a dynamic because they’ve been without for so long... that is a red flag for most people. It deters most because seeing that before even trying to talk to someone is really overbearing. Like , “ woah , all of their statuses are upset and unhappy about wanting one specific thing and it’s all they can focus on , how will they be able to focus on anything else ? Like actually getting to know me?”

 

Being a submissive , male or female , doesn’t make you weak. What people see as weak is the desperation people display. I think (I’m not a mommy so I don’t effing know lol) most mommies would want a little boy that can hold a decent conversation, and isn’t always necessarily in baby mode. It would go the same way for a daddy too , if a little girl couldn’t hold a normal adult conversation, always wanted to talk in a baby voice and wanted to jump right into a dynamic with barely knowing someone.... red flag. Does this mean a mommy wouldn’t want to baby her little ? Nope , but she probably wants to have some normal human interaction before hopping into a bunch of “will you be my caregiver” actions and questions.

 

I really don’t see this as a gender issue , but rather statistics like I said and a personality game.

 

Keep your head up bro ! Little boys are awesome.

Edited March 3, 2021 by DaddysMonkey

[DaddyDomination]

In this day and age, I wouldn't see why it would matter all that much. Everyone is different we all have our preferences. As long as the parties involved are consenting adults I have no issue what they do or what role they play. 

 

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”

[LeftyGuitar]

It is nice to see all the continued replies on my thread. I did not expect it to get so many replies, however it is interesting to see everyone's different opinions. Its also nice to see that pretty much everyone agrees, LB's are not frowned upon, its just different.

[princessfreckles]

I've met a good number of LBs, MDs, and DDs who only want LBs. They're out there, but they can be difficult to find. Little Boys aren't frowned upon at all, at least not that I've witnessed. If I did, I'd make quick work of calling the person and letting them know that attitude isn't welcome. I will say for me I think sometimes it may be difficult to find common ground with them due to differing little interests, but I'd never look down on or judge LBs. I've met male identifying people who outside of their chosen D/s roles are not weak or less than in any sense of the word. Anyone who thinks that is probably going off of inaccurate generalizations. As a LB you're definitely welcome to the CG/l (Caregiver/little) lifestyle! Please don't let think any differently. 

[Guest Little_Laney]