Secret Santa?

[kittenofthemall]

Hiiiii!
(I hope nobody already did that this year, because I would feel stupid haha)

SO! I had an idea! I don't know if everyone knows about the Secret Santa thing? But basically, you send a gift to someone who doesn't know you're sending them something, and another someone sends you something while you don't know they are, and it goes on and on and on with as many people as possible.

I thought that maybe we could do this here?

So, if you want to participate, leave a comment or send me a PM, and I'll use a random generator to find a Secret Santa (who will send you something) and a Lucky Person (who you will send something to) for you (from here, of course! not a really random person)
If you're too shy to make the first step but you would still like to participate (because anxiety sucks, I know), just put a ":)" in the comments and I'll come talk to you!

IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE ME AND YOUR SECRET SANTA YOUR ADRESS (obviously?)
AND BE NICE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND SOMETHING SUPER EXPENSIVE, BUT SEND SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE HIM/HER HAPPY
Of course I'll tell you the gender and the role (CG / Little / Switch) of the person you'll send a gift to (so you can chose something more precisely)
Also if you want to send something that requires a size, that's possible too if the person is willing to share that information with me so I can tell it to you!

So yeah, I hope at least some of you will be interested! I just wanted to make something nice to celebrate Christmas, and maybe cheer up some people who don't have anyone to celebrate it with etc...

 

EDIT : All of the contact information needs to be through my PM Box only , any comments with addresses will be removed as it’s not safe for members to be posting that on the public forum
ALSO : This is not a forum event and the staff is not responsible for anything that takes place

 

 

THIS THING IS NO LONGER ACTIVE

I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A NICE CHRISTMAS

BYE

Edited November 22, 2017 by kittenofthemall

[Guest SUeB]

While i appreciate the sentiment behind this idea, and the sweet thought behind it, i would never in a million years give my address to anyone online that i didn't know personally. Incredibly unsafe and extremely risky. Maybe do something strictly online. Make a picture, do a graphic, write a poem, make a collage of pics relating to an interest, etc etc etc.

[Guest Joshwell]

I'd do it and in fact am doing it on another forum right now. 

[kittenofthemall]

While i appreciate the sentiment behind this idea, and the sweet thought behind it, i would never in a million years give my address to anyone online that i didn't know personally. Incredibly unsafe and extremely risky. Maybe do something strictly online. Make a picture, do a graphic, write a poem, make a collage of pics relating to an interest, etc etc etc.

You're totally free to not want to, but I'd like to say that I'll try my veryyyy best to keep it safe. I won't give someone's address to anyone that looks suspicious in any way, and I neither will give it to someone I wouldn't feel safe giving mine.

[Guest SUeB]

Dangerous people rarely make it obvious they are dangerous.

[Guest starsInTheNight]

I like the idea very much but people really need to understand there is a small risk.

 

I trust you and I'm in.

 

If you want, I know some people doing this kind of secret santa on a forum (l'originale pour ne pas le citer ), I can always ask them if they have tips and tricks to make it more secure.

 

I hope your idea is gonna work

[HampshireBloke]

If you set up something like a Google form to collect the information, you keep things independent of user names on here. People could submit their postal address, possibly a name/initials if needed, gender, role, interests etc. Along with an email address.

You can then match them up and email them the information for the person they are sending a gift to.

It doesn't remove the risk completely, but it does mean that people can't link the address to a specific profile/name on here.

[Guest SUeB]

But at least one person on here still has everyones address. Sorry, but are people really that naive and ready to blindly trust some nameless, faceless internet stranger? Hate to be the negative one here, but i live in the real world where not everyone is sweet and lovely. i as a responsible adult can not just sit back while people say "yes, person that i do not know, have my address!"

[Guest PianoPlayer]

But at least one person on here still has everyones address. Sorry, but are people really that naive and ready to blindly trust some nameless, faceless internet stranger? Hate to be the negative one here, but i live in the real world where not everyone is sweet and lovely. i as a responsible adult can not just sit back while people say "yes, person that i do not know, have my address!"

I can see where you're coming from, but you sound rather judgemental. Each individual has the right to choose the risks they take, unless of course a moderator finds that this breaks the rules

[Guest SUeB]

If it comes across as judgemental, then i can deal with that. Yes everyone has a choice, and if they choose to do it, then that's up to them. But as someone that knows how insane this world can be, no way am i going to not say anything. If i prevent at least one person from doing something that has the potential to actually properly mess their life up, then i take that as a win, no matter who else might think i am being judgemental.

[Persephone_Persephone]

Have to back up SueB on this. Sorry but the people saying its ok to put your personal details/address to utter strangers on the internet really arent aware of how the world works.

 

Yes it sounds negative etc etc. What would be a far more negative and dangerous experience would be giving your details to a 'nice' person. And then finding them stalking you, sending you unwanted material or passing your details on to others and sorry folks but that happens everyday. I am actually surpised a mod hasnt stepped in on this idea as it will end in tears.

 

The idea suggested to use a different method to keep your identity safe is agood one and seems to have gone unnoticed (Hampshirebloke) so maybe try that.

 

Or you can all carry on with the attitude that you know best and stubborn yourselves into strife. I think the people who are warning you arent doing it to spoil anyones fun at all they want people to be aware your playing a dangerous game.

[Guest starsInTheNight]

I didn't understand your reaction at first because, for me, the risk is actually really low to have your life messed up that way.

The only thing that could be detrimental would be to get doxxed on this forum or in real life. In my counrtry, it is punished by a 45 k€ fine and one year in prison for the person committing the crime. And I don't see why someone would expose himself/herself to such risk, just for fun(?)

 

But I made a bit of research and found out that it's actually not the case everywhere in the world.

 

Apparently, in the US, the only thing you could do is filed a court order to make someone stop.. I found no information about it being illegal.

In the UK, the only thing that comes close to be some kind of protection is the protection from harassment act 1997, but it's doesn't strictly refer to doxxing, so I dunno how a case would hold in a court.

 

Except for the doxxing part, I don't see any others problems though, since adresses/phone/names are usually a matter of public record (phone books, public databases, etc.), any other problems I could think of may arise independently of you giving out this info. But I may miss things here, in that case, feel free to tell me what.

 

he idea suggested to use a different method to keep your identity safe is agood one and seems to have gone unnoticed (Hampshirebloke) so maybe try that. 

 

that may be a good alternative if we can manage to not link our accounts here to the secret santa thing, there seems to be a few sites dedicated to help organize a secret santa (like secretsantaorganizer.com), maybe looking into that may help create a more safe settings for it.

[kittenofthemall]

Okay so first, I may have not been clear on how I wanted to do it, so here we go. If someone choose to participate, and give me their address, I'll NEVER give information other than : name/nickname (if wanted), role, gender, and the address. I won't link anything to any forum account.

Then, I would gladly use Google if this makes anyone feel better, I just thought a generator would be easier.

FINALLY, SUeB, I really don't see why you think I'm that much of a creep, but okay, think what you want, I don't give a shit at this point. But if anyone has doubt about me, I would, also gladly, be willing to give them my own address or phone number or whatever, so they would have something to give the police if I turn out being a stalker (which I won't, because I have better things to do with my life.)
And tbh, I don't see why you want to absolutely ruin my project and make everyone run away, we are (mostly) all "responsible adults" here, not just you, and I just wanted to be nice, because I know too well that some people don't have a Christmas because of family issues, because of money, and because of so many other things. So please, get your negativity somewhere else. If you're at least a liiiiittle smart, you know that when you give your address to anyone from the internet, there's a risk. So don't pretend everyone is stupid here, thank you.

[Guest SUeB]

Okay so first, I may have not been clear on how I wanted to do it, so here we go. If someone choose to participate, and give me their address, I'll NEVER give information other than : name/nickname (if wanted), role, gender, and the address. I won't link anything to any forum account.

 

Then, I would gladly use Google if this makes anyone feel better, I just thought a generator would be easier.

 

FINALLY, SUeB, I really don't see why you think I'm that much of a creep, but okay, think what you want, I don't give a shit at this point. But if anyone has doubt about me, I would, also gladly, be willing to give them my own address or phone number or whatever, so they would have something to give the police if I turn out being a stalker (which I won't, because I have better things to do with my life.)

And tbh, I don't see why you want to absolutely ruin my project and make everyone run away, we are (mostly) all "responsible adults" here, not just you, and I just wanted to be nice, because I know too well that some people don't have a Christmas because of family issues, because of money, and because of so many other things. So please, get your negativity somewhere else. If you're at least a liiiiittle smart, you know that when you give your address to anyone from the internet, there's a risk. So don't pretend everyone is stupid here, thank you.

Did i accuse you of anything? No i absolutely did not. But if you WERE one, would you tell us you were? Are we supposed to just take your word for it that you are a lovely person with no bad intentions? No, that's not how it works. Or certainly it shouldn't.

Maybe you are the sweetest person in the world. Most likely you started this discussion with only the very best intentions. Maybe you actually, genuinely wanted to do something lovely. But then again, maybe you are NOT such a sweetheart.

That IS a possibility here. Yes it's unlikely, but definitely not impossible, or even implausible.

And if you were the bad type, would you tell us that? Would you start this discussion by saying you wanted people's personal details so you could do bad things? Of course not.

And i am also not saying anything about you particularly. i actually do think it's most likely that you DID do this through good intentions. But what about the random people that get these addresses? What proof do you have that they are sugar and spice and all things nice? Simply their word? i think we all know that people online can't always be trusted on their words or promises. You certainly can't judge it solely on "suspicious behaviour". Some of these predators are extremely clever. Everyone is always completely surprised when someone they thought they could trust does these awful things.

[Persephone_Persephone]

I'm going to be perfectly frank here because I really dont think the OP understands the comments warning against this idea.

At no point has anyone told you secret santa is a bad idea they have simply suggested you rethink the method as it is dangerous to pass on your details to strangers.

Infact people have said what a sweet idea it is.

No one is accusing you of being a bad person with sinister motives. However we have no idea who you are (and you dont us) as to if your a real person, a fake or whatever and that is why there is a risk. If you believe it's worth the risk then go right ahead.

But one thing to think about you stress on this thread and on your profile how nice you are and that is why people can trust you with their information. Your replies to people on here are quite immature, snide and rude. For that reason alone I wouldn't be sending any details to you.

I would take the advice of changing your method and drop the attitude whilst your at it because it isnt making any of it sound fun and seasonal its making you sound like your on a mission.

[kittenofthemall]

Okay, you all know what? This whole thing is cancelled. I don't care what anyone thinks anymore, I don't deserve hate for trying to be nice. I had the best intentions in the world, and I really don't like people thinking I could be a creep. I mean, I live in a country where almost nobody gives a shit about ddlg, and I don't have money to waste, so I don't see what I would do with addresses from the US, UK or wherever.
This being said, I might sound rude and immature, and maybe I am, sorry but fuck I'm tired of trying to make up things to make people happy and that it always ends up failing. It's not your fault, I understand your points.
Now, I declare this thing cancelled, unless someone else wants to do it, which I don't think will happen.
Btw, I know I sounded rude, and I usually do when I feel attacked, but please understand that I woke up to mean drama all over my post, and that's not the best thing to wake up to.
I'd also like to say that Secret Santa is a concept made on a loooot of websites, and it works perfectly well, and the risks are exactly the same as here, but yeah, whatever.
Bye.

[Guest SUeB]

Nobody attacked you and nobody was mean. If you look at the interaction between yourself and me, for example, it was definitely you that attacked me first. Nothing i said was specifically aimed at you, i was more than clear on that point.

[kittenofthemall]

Okay, I get it, I'm the mean fuck who jumps to conclusion here, can we move on.

[Guest SUeB]

Oh dear. Best i say no more. Bit nonplussed to be honest. So yes, moving on.....

[Persephone_Persephone]

Nobody thinks your a 'mean fuck' thats just putting words in peoples mouths.

What we did say was be safe. Try the alternative idea and I for one did think it was a sweet idea that just needed abit of polishing.

 

If your going to put ideas out you will get people suggest how it can be improved.

 

People just were looking out for you and others safety and the world needs more of that.

Take it as you want but I for one have had enough of this discussion and am hoping someone ends it or locks it so I'm done wasting my breath.

 

I hope whatever you decide to do is successful.