kinks and ethical considerations...

[Mr. Walden]

Hi friends!

 

So I'm having a bit of cognitive dissonance lately. An ethical paradoxal crisis. For those of you not familiar with me, I love debate. I find providing an intellectually honest argument both for and against known issues very satisfying. It is quite the cerebral exercise. So lately I've been arguing with myself regarding the ethical issues regarding DDLG, CG/L and age play, all focused on the sexual aspect of these "kinks". I'll explain:

 

The usual argument for acceptance is "between two consenting adults". While at it's core this argument is true, I'm starting to notice a fallacy. See, DDLG, CG/L and age play all focus on embracing an adolescent mentality, ie "little space". Disregarding sexuality, there are no ethical issues that I notice. Once sexuality is introduced in "little space", a problem arises. "Between two consenting adults" may start to look like a cop-out argument. Let's break it down...

 

Consider "post-truth" philosophy. In a simplistic nutshell, post-truth is the understanding that emotions should override objective truth, as emotions are a primal response, and objective truth should then be considered subjective. Utilizing post-truth in little space simply reasons that the little should be considered little in both age and emotional maturity. If this is to be accepted true, a little cannot be considered a consenting adult, because ethically and emotionally.... they are a child, and a cannot consent (legally and ethically.

 

Please consider that I am just arguing for debates sake. I fully realize that legally there are no issues.

 

That being said, the clear cut truth of "between two consenting adults" becomes ethically confusing. Objectivly or subjectivly, can a "little" give consent? Should a little be considered an adult 24/7, even in little space? If not, sexuality in little space should be considered ethically problematic, as it can be argued as desensitization of pedophilia. It could also be argued that the "daddy" aspect of ddlg sexuality also normalizes incestuous desires.

 

Please understand that I am only trying to seeboth sides of the issue here, I'm not taking a stance one way or the other, only trying to understand our community better.

 

I'm only an armchair psychologist, a philosophical hobbiest... and no, i did not stay at a holiday inn express last night, haha

 

penny for your thoughts?

 

WF

Edited November 23, 2016 by WaldenFound

[Guest softheartbruisedknees]

To me, the bottom line is that it's between two consenting adults. It's a kink. 

Two adults have agreed on this BDSM dynamic. Even when a little is in little space, they are a consenting adult. 

 

I mean, it's a kink, so it's not going to be everyone's thing

Edited November 23, 2016 by softheartbruisedknees

[Guest softheartbruisedknees]

If we're talking about DDlg then why not consensual non consent? Abduction? Age play?

The BDSM world is not particularly one for moral high ground or ethics.  

Edited November 23, 2016 by softheartbruisedknees

[Mr. Walden]

thanks for the input shbk!

 

just for clarification, i am of course interested in this dynamic. i just have this quirk of almost incapacitating myself by trying to see both sides of an issue. it sucks, because i cant come to a logical conclusion. seeing both sides of the same coin at once is impossible, yet i always try. oh well.

 

but, yes... I'd like to consider myself as a daddy/CG. maybe one day I'll fulfill that role.

 

WF

Edited November 23, 2016 by WaldenFound

[Guest softheartbruisedknees]

The DDlg dynamic is taboo (as kinks are) and that's why some people like it. It's also what you make it; I know people that don't combine sex and little space. 

 

In my opinion, BDSM makes a person face parts of themselves that isn't quite socially acceptable (a beautiful thing). If someone holds up kinks to society's standards of "normal" or ethical, they will definitely find discrepancies. Kinks aren't kinks because everyone likes it and everyone feels good about it! 

 

But that's just my opinion

Edited November 23, 2016 by softheartbruisedknees

[Guest ShyShytheCryBaby]

Your point is really interesting about a little in little space not being a consenting adult. For me I live in a relationship where I am allowed to be in little space almost 24/7(even in public situations) but I do snap out of it and become an adult if the occasion arises. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that even if I think like a child often I still have the complete capacity to think like and behave like an adult. Thus I am an adult. And lol I really do consent to what me and Daddy do in the bedroom. But I also think this is completely on a person to person basis. So I see how you personal are struggling with it internally.  

[little*girl*rosi]

Interesting point. I can only speak for myself, but I see what you mean. Because I, as an adult who in "adult space" very much eenjoys sex, when I'm fully in little space it just gets a scary thing I don't understand and don't wanna do. But only when I'm fully regressed. If I "act" little in a roleplay kinda way but am not fully regressed I do like sex, but when I'm fully regressed no way. But still I can say what I like and what I don't and I told my partner about it, so it's cool. I guess you kind of need to give your consent for sex in littlespace in adult mode, or at least that's how it works for me.

[Trash Queen]

A child can't give consent because the frontal lobe has not developed. This is the part responsible for acknowledging consequences and assessing risks. Even before the scientific explanation, people were aware children and young adults had poor rationale and perception of risk.

 

An adult in little space has the development of the frontal lobe a child blatantly does not have. Even in little space, that part of the brain doesn't go away. They can ignore it or pretend to not have the same rationale as in their adult mind, but they do.

 

An adult in little space has the compacity to asses risk and understand consequences unlike an actual child due to this brain development. They are in a willing state in which they regress into the personality and behavior of a child, but the ability to understand consequences never goes away. They are not a child; they are an adult pretending to be a child.

[Mr. Walden]

A child can't give consent because the frontal lobe has not developed. This is the part responsible for acknowledging consequences and assessing risks. Even before the scientific explanation, people were aware children and young adults had poor rationale and perception of risk.

 

An adult in little space has the development of the frontal lobe a child blatantly does not have. Even in little space, that part of the brain doesn't go away. They can ignore it or pretend to not have the same rationale as in their adult mind, but they do.

 

An adult in little space has the compacity to asses risk and understand consequences unlike an actual child due to this brain development. They are in a willing state in which they regress into the personality and behavior of a child, but the ability to understand consequences never goes away. They are not a child; they are an adult pretending to be a child.

interesting perspective, and biologically accurate. i was thinking more along the lines of emotional comprehension while in little space. has frontal lobe development been studied insofar as generational changes? genuinely curious. thanks for the input!

 

WF

[Guest Ginger Step]

My experience as a Little. Sex is allowed only out of Little Space. Being Little is for care, comfort and discipline. Sex is a wholely adult aspect of our dynamic. This is a lifestyle, not role play for us.